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I just moved to Denver, thousands of miles from my cop-critical social support network. With the exception of my partner, I no longer have people around me that will willingly accompany me in watching an endless stream of YouTube videos showing individuals refusing illegal searches at unconstitutional checkpoints, accounts of stop and frisk, or this awesome snake wielding legislation Jedi.

This lack of usual cohorts has led me to not only seek out others to fill the void, but has also led me to be much more aware of others’ perspectives of me, of my views and of my efforts to correct the egregiously fucked world around me. I’ve ultimately appreciated the increased context that this opportunity has afforded me, and I’ve learned a few things.

1. Not everyone sees things the way I do.

Of course, I’ve known this for quite sometime. I’ve long since come to accept my “radical” positions on political systemics, human nature, alternative transportation, and, of course, the corrosive and corruptive power of authority; especially when it’s given to sub-intelligent people that have a history of abusing their power. But, leaving all your Copblocking friends makes one re-realize their place within cultural opinions.

2. …but this is starting to change.

I’ve also had a chance to see a shift in the “average citizen’s” opinions of the police. I’ve noticed a sizable increase in more mainstream accounts of police abuse, outside of radically alternative media outlets, from “This American Life” radio narratives to Funny or Die’s “Cops: Ferguson” or The Daily Show’s poking fun at the FBI’s blatantly insufficient accounting of citizens killed by police. I’ve seen, through my Facebook feed, an anecdotal increase in cop-critical posts, from people that I would not have expected. That sorority girl that I knew in college hates cops now? Awesome.

Police Predator or ProtectorIt’s hard to find solid evidence that people’s views on police brutality are actually shifting, apart from some expensive social research or a superficial Google Trends search on the increased frequency of a search for “police brutality“. Opinions on this issue occupy a wide spectrum. On one side, the “radical” view that all cops are evil, that it’s the occupation that is corrupt, and that “good” cops are simply individuals who have not yet had the opportunity to show their congenital capacity to violate human rights; or have not yet been caught. On the other, one might accept that there are “bad apples” but that most police officers have the best interests of the community in mind. There’s also infinite variations of these perspectives within and around these two extremes. It makes it hard to conceptualize exactly what cop-critical attitudes even are let alone if more people have adopted them.

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Lately, I’ve had the opportunity to engage new people in a discourse that occupies a much wider area than within the community that I left when I moved. I’ve had some recent practice in how to talk about my views on the inhumane nature of police without scaring people away from my perspective, as it’s seen as subversive to someone that might just be starting to recognize the nature of the police but are still timid in voicing their opinions.

So, this is my call-to-action fellow Copblockers. Our movement is growing, and out of fear, police sympathizers will paint us as cop hating lunatics. We must all take on the responsibility of correcting that farce and showing others how righteous our philosophy is.

The American public is finally looking at the police and they haven’t been liking what they see. But they’re also looking at us.

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35 Comments

  1. Good stuff, the comment section here at copblock is a great example. I’ve never intentionally gone out and filmed cops, held signs at a checkpoint, or walked around with an old ass gun talking about its a powder pistol I can carry it blah blah blah, but on probably my second comment here I was being called a CBer, cop hater, and I always say this, I always think that. People need to stop jumping to stupid conclusions because they are uncomfortable with an issue being discussed.

  2. More paranoid rhetoric. Why did you move if you were content with your support system? You need a hobby.

    1. So I noticed you simply troll Copblock. You usually talk about how pathetic we are, as people. In this gem of a comment right here, you claim that Gary,the article’s author, needs a hobby. With close to 2,500 comments on Disqus articles (I read about 50 of them to get a general feel.) I think you may be the one who needs a hobby.

      You make some valid points in some of the comments I sampled from you, and yes, Copblock has plenty of articles that are slanted or even inaccurate, and it’s sad to hear propaganda from any new source. I choose to follow Copblock because they post on some things that interest me, because I care a lot for my rights.. all of them. I just wonder why you would follow them? What is your motivation for doing so?

      I want you to be a free thinker too, not for my own satisfaction, but because you deserve the torture as well. It’s sometimes torturous for me because I’m able to look critically at a system that forces me to pay for wars that I no longer believe in, for protection that I don’t want, for checkpoints on public roads miles from borders, for DUI and now sometimes License and Registration checkpoints, for public servants that act like they are the voice of reason while violently enforce laws against victimless crimes.

      I invested too much in this country to give up on her just yet. Come on man, we both deserve better than this.

      1. TT:
        Hmmm. Critical thinking huh?

        See…..you don’t believe in taxes and you don’t want to pay.
        Welll……..stop using my stuff then. Don’t drive in my roads. Don’t use the power that couldn’t get to your house if there weren’t thing like “public right of ways” and government easements. And all of that stuff that you like to use…..stop. It was shipped over those same roads that you don’t wanna pay for..
        As for that protection you don’t want…..well people want to be protected FROM you.

        So….maybe you critical thinking needs to be a little more critical.

        No offense intended.

        1. My stance is not against taxation in general, I understand I reap some benefits from taxes that I’m more than willing to pay.

          People don’t need protection from me, as I don’t impose my will upon anyone, and in general have much more consideration for my fellow people than I witness from others on a regular basis.

          This is OUR stuff, at least we should believe that. We both have vested interests, we just have different feelings about certain issues. I think I place more value in freedom than you do, and that’s fine. Looking at the world through the eyes of another is difficult, but listening (reading comprehensively in this case) is paramount in getting the message they intended to send.

          My login information has eluded me on my phone somehow, so I’m just posting as a guest.

      2. I understand what you are saying but, we will always be on opposing sides. I work in law enforcement. I currently work in probations. I don’t believe in victimless crimes. There is always a victim. Checkpoints work. They catch DUIs, DWLs, people with no registration ect.. Sorry, but copblock is a total bust. I’m here to voice my opinions like everyone else. Just because I disagree with someone does not make me a troll. My family and friends don’t have any problems with police officers. Why, because they believe in reinvesting within the communities they live in. They don’t have to go out and purposely break laws and they live the American dream.

        1. oh now i see why your such a dick you couldnt make it to being a dumb fk cop , and i am sure when you say your ” in probations ” thats code for I clean the toilets at the police station but i am still on probation at the job after 7 years

          1. No, you are the one who cleans toilets and utters the famous words 8 hours per day. “Do you want fries with that”?

          2. Funny , I have never worked in fast food but I bet it is a phrase you hear often … Go back to badge licking you pussy , you write a lot here but you hide behind a computer like the keyboard warrior you are … Do you have a police clown suit the you bought at Halloween and yell ” freeze motherfkr ” in your moms bathroom just before you jerk off ?

          3. Since you have no life, you tell everyone about yours. I suggest you get a real hobby and out of your mommy’s basement.

          4. Haha the only one who lives in their moms basement is you , I see you have a ton of time to make excuses for the police and since you hide behind a fake account I and the rest of us can only assume your not man enough to stand behind what you comment … Your just a badge licking pussy

          5. What fake name? JC is my name numbnuts. Now get off your daddy’s lap, pull up your big girl panties, and go play.

          6. Your like a little girl , JC is obviously a fake persona just to troll the net as a ” badge licking groupie ” bet your a washroom attendant who hold cops dicks for a living , oh my mistake you probably do it for fun

          7. Prove JC isn’t my name. You seem to know a lot about holding dicks. You need help.

        2. I’ve had my money taken from me too many times by absolute trash officers and “commissioners” (some new judge they made to take your money)

          Tinted windows: I live in southern california…. it’s not to keep you from seeing what I have, it’s so my car isn’t 6 billion degrees in the sun…WTF. Take my money though, I’m safe now, thanks.

          Blinkers less than 9 inches away from each other on my motorcycle. Seriously? Half of the people I see on the road don’t even use their signals, yet you’re taking my money for some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard? Thanks for keeping me safe, bro.

          License plate unreadable from 50ft. You find me a motorcycle plate you can read from 50 ft, then you can take my money.

          I brought med MJ when visiting my dad in Texas, before I knew about the checkpoint on the I-10 where everyone is stopped and sniffed by dogs. (One of my favorite things cops do to fuck your 4th amendment.) I had “.03 LBS” of it or a couple of grams as most people would say. I should have been arrested because Texas has archaic laws governing MJ, but instead they modify charges there to you having just paraphernalia so they don’t have to arrest everyone. Just give you 600 dollar tickets and waste about 4 hours of your life in a concrete cell. Then a slap on your ass and GTFOH citizen.

          I was a hospital corpsman in the military, the salary is enough to live the dream, it’s the one thing that keeps us from really being introspective into what we are doing as a human on earth for the rest of the other humans here. Eventually the guilt of oppressing foreign people got to me, and I didn’t want to do it anymore. How do people not feel guilt oppressing their OWN people.

          You, and your family, have no problems with Police officers because you and your family receive preferential treatment because of your connections with them. I have several friends who got away with anything as kids without tickets, because they have relatives on the force or in corrections. The blue line, playing favorites. Grew up in New Jersey. PBA cards and placards get people out of god knows what.

          See man, I get that there are great cops. People who really give a shit, and want to follow all the rules and catch genuine bad guys while upholding their oath. My problem is that they are doing a fucking awful job at keeping their “brothers” accountable. Cops used to be there to make sure we all are safe, now they see us as a piggy bank. If you talk to an insider that trusts you they’ll admit in so many words that there are quotas.

          I’m over the fucking dog and pony show. Please value your individual freedom more. The gap between the 1% and the rest of us will continue to expand, and so will the difficulty of getting into the 1%. You know how connections work after all. You’re doing the work of private interests disguised as our government. Please stop.

          1. Sorry guy but what you state you went through is obviously your own fault. It doesn’t matter if you were in the military you don’t get special permission to get out of carrying illegal drugs or speeding. You carried the paraphernalia on you. Everything that you posted could have been avoided if you didn’t break the law with illegal drugs. You call MJ a med. Did you have a prescription for it? Even if you did, you can’t leave the state you live in to go to a state that hasn’t decriminalized MJ.

          2. Yeah I get it man. I have a scrip for it, just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Its hard to argue that anything but ass backwards reasoning keeps MJ prohibited while we consume alcohol, tobacco, and dangerous prescription narcotics and stimulants like champs, legally.

            I don’t want, or expect special treatment. I just want better treatment for everyone.

            I get that I broke the law, but I just don’t feel bad about it, at all. I understand that I did get myself into that predicament though, you’re right about that.

            Its all about the money anymore, sad, but true. Just remember it was also breaking the law for black people to sit in the front of the bus less than two decades ago. Having magazines larger than ten rounds is now illegal in CA (lol). You can make whatever laws you want, and make me a criminal; but it’s not going to make me feel like a bad guy for breaking them. Cuz I’m a crazy sociopath, Ya know?!

          3. Edit: 2 generations*

          4. You said, ” just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it’s wrong”. What are some of your examples? The laws are created because the “people” wanted it. The people lobbied for it and worked with law makers. If you want something changed, you have to do the same thing.

  3. The simple answer is, yes people are more aware. Not as aware as they should be, as they often don’t hear about many events. People actually thought I was joking about cops shooting at three innocent people during the Dorner hunt.

    Despite chronic ignorance, people are learning. LE is not the trusted profession it once was. People used to take a cop at his word. Is that the case now? No, of course it isn’t. People knew cops lie.
    I myself know plenty of people who are fairly law abiding citizens. A few still sing cops’ praises. Others are a lot more aware of how ill behaved LE has become. The respect and trust isn’t there. They are more aware of questionable shootings, and how cops get away with it. People are becoming more aware of the misuse of forfeiture laws, SWAT, the list goes on.

    Part of that is how cops are doing some of this with so much more enthusiasm that they can’t avoid affecting innocent people. When SWAT raids were measured in hundreds, it’s a safe bet almost all of their targets were guilty. Most of us can not, and will not, put ourselves in the shoes of a guilty drug dealer.
    But when you ramp up SWAT use from hundreds to the estimated 80+k a year, two problems will come up. First, even if the percentages of mistakes stay the same, the absolute number of innocent people harmed will increase. Second, as the bar for using such tactics drop right to the floor so that some car thief can simply say the meth belonged to the car owner, the percentage of mistakes can’t help but rise too.
    Same with forfeiture laws.
    The more aggressive you get, the more likely mistakes will happen. Toss in modern information technology, and people more aware of how protective cops clearly are of their own bad apples, and attitudes about cops and what they do will change.

    Look at the recent Georgia cop now out in the news for abusing an older couple. His eagerness to get a drug bust was greater than any concern for abusing innocent citizens. And people are seeing it.

    1. Shawn:
      Wow. You got part of it right. “Chronic ignorance”. Maybe it comes from smoking to much chronic.

    2. How many “innocents” are victimized? Just how many “SWAT raids” are there? What defines a SWAT callout? How many SWAT call outs are “raids” or hostage/high risk warrants/barricades? How many end without any confrontation? Even LAPD SWAT less than 150 “raids” per year. Because the police crunch a door and someone who’s wanted isn’t there, doesn’t make the warrant poison. The purpose is for those members to have additional training, gear, and experience to ensure a safe outcome. Look at the raid in Greenland, NH (I think). They should have used a tac team but didn’t. Even Kraska’s numbers are estimated* at 45,000, and then he stated 60,000 simply by extrapolation. There are no hard numbers, he’s guessing. There is not national data base. Sorry, those numbers are inflated at best.

      Look at NYPD ESU. Would they be labeled “SWAT” because they have rifles? With 500 members, out of a department with 25,000 cops, but you don’t hear them slaying people nightly do you? With 77 Precincts in a city of 8 million, and the high number of calls, with your numbers, they’d be killing people by the tens every night.

      Sorry, some people are just scared of BDUs and trucks.

      Ref GA, it was a 20 minute interdiction stop. Nothing illegal. No arrests, no baton strikes, no tasers, just talking. Sorry they didn’t like it. Move along.

      http://www.cbs46.com/story/28416132/elderly-couple-complains-after-traffic-stop-turned-into-drug-interrogation

      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/magazine/the-sinaloa-cartels-90-year-old-drug-mule.html?_r=0

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/1654/honesty-ethics-professions.aspx

      http://www.lapdonline.org/home/news_view/37975

      http://www.lapdonline.org/inside_the_lapd/content_basic_view/848

      http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf

      1. Common, they raided a guy because a car thief claimed the meth was the car owner. Killed the guy who probably never understood it was cops.
        That kind of suggests that the bar for raiding people is far too low. 80k is the most common estimate. I say estimate, because LE has actively chosen or even refused to record data on how often their SWAT teams, whatever name it is given, are used. One state even had to pass a law to force LE to cooperate in an investigation into their use. In PA I think it was, they are now trying to hid behind some claimed private corporation status to evade FOI requests. They have things to hide when it comes to their use of tactical teams, whatever name it gets.

        “Ref GA, it was a 20 minute interdiction stop. Nothing illegal. No
        arrests, no baton strikes, no tasers, just talking. Sorry they didn’t
        like it. Move along.”
        Wrong. It was a pretense stop, fishing for drugs. He didn’t give one rat’s ass about the tinting and probably well knew it was legal. He only wanted to do a drug search. It was a cop who displayed a bad attitude when interacting with the public. You’re an idiot if you think people will accept being treated this way.
        Maybe you have no self respect or concern for how a cop treats you, but most of us do. In any other profession, the way the average cop wants to conduct himself would get a person fired. In a professional world, you learn quick how to talk to people in a respectful manner.
        I would point out that once again, a cop supporter got an education as two how cops behave themselves. He thought the world of cops until this. I suspect he’s going to be a little more critical now. Fortunately, his lesson about the real nature of LE was cheep.

        He wasn’t a cop blocker. He was another member of the public who is ignorant to how cops actually behave. But now he is a little more aware and critical.

        1. I have to disagree. Is still legal Shawn, so long as the cop as any half ass valid reason for the stop, whatever his intentions are don’t matter.

          You have cited two examples out of 80,000. You can even cite the one in Florida where the police shot their snitch, or even where the police shot and killed another officer.

          Lets say there’s 100 botched raids, completely fucked up doors were it was in fact the wrong house or a snitch lied. Make it solid 1000.

          What’s that percentage out of 80,000 raids?

          0.00125%

          1. You’ll learn when it is you and yours. When the bar is so low as to take nothing but the claim of a car thief, mistakes are going to be VERY easy.

            As for those few, that is exactly what it was. A few examples. There are a LOT more of them.

          2. “I have to disagree. Is still legal Shawn, so long as the cop as any
            half ass valid reason for the stop, whatever his intentions are don’t
            matter.”

            The hell his intentions don’t matter. You’ll never prove he lied, to a court’s satisfaction, but it is clear he was deliberately fishing.
            What you’re saying is that it is just fine for cops to make up BS reasons to stop people, all for a gut instinct drug hunt. That concept pisses all over civil rights. It also proves once again how little honor they have.

          3. That’s it, he’s not making it up. Tint is a valid reason.

          4. “Lets say there’s 100 botched raids, completely fucked up doors were it was in fact the wrong house or a snitch lied. Make it solid 1000.

            What’s that percentage out of 80,000 raids?

            0.00125%”

            Oh, there was one study, of a single department. Only 25% of their raids ended in an arrest. Less than 10% ended in a conviction. Kind of suggested to normal people that their SWAT was over used.

            Make no mistake, even if they don’t physically harm people, their fucked up raids still cause problems. Do you suppose for one moment you can assault people like that and not have lasting affects on the victims?

          5. I’ll certainly agree, a botched raid is an issue. But what makes a “botched” raid? That’s the issue.

            You see the trigger word “raid” and you think flashbangs and rake’n’breaks. A raid can be just about anything.

            In my area, when ERT/SRT/SWAT does a search warrant, rarely is arrested unless they have a warrant or some other factor. Perhaps its geographical, maybe its otherwise elsewhere. They will hit the door, seize the dope/weed/pills/guns or whatever and submit a warrant for possession, distribution, cultivation or whatever. And this is only if the “door” scores high enough on a form for risk factors that will warrant the usage of the tac team. If not, then patrol and the dope team does the door.

            In my county, the DA will not (or rarely) issue a narcotics warrant for dope without having the crime labs formal report on what dope it really was. That can take months. The tac team is there and gone in minutes, then the DB goes in, interviews are done and the place it searched. Then they leave and unless there some other factor, like a meth lab, or those there were wanted and they need to make arrangements for kids. If someone fights or runs, they can get arrested and lodged, but the overall door, no arrests are made until the warrants come out. If its a warrant for say documents or a PC (child porn), then the DB shows up and knocks. If no one is home, they pick the lock and take the PCs, leave a note and copy of the warrant and re-lock the door. If its a barricade, then SRT is there for hours, waiting and waiting. Either he (they) kill themselves, are already dead, or walks out and surrenders and unless they did something criminal, they are taken to the psych ward, not jail, unless they are wanted or so drunk, the jail won’t take them, then they go the ER. Again, arrests are rare here so your 25% is about right. People don’t understand how things work. Hostage situations are very different naturally.

            Clearly there have been times when a tac team was used when it wasn’t needed but times have changed since the 1980s and 1990s, teams who want creditability don’t half-ass things. But remember, SWAT and a dope team are two separate things with different roles. If they (SWAT) hit a dry hole, its not SWATs fault, that’s on the dope team/DB.

          6. “Perhaps its geographical, maybe its otherwise elsewhere.”

            You will see the worst events done by communities that are too small to have a valid reason for a SWAT team, but need to justify its existence anyway. But that is most of our communities. Only a fraction of communities are really all that big.

            But the primary issue will be what motivates them. Remember the articles about two different police recruitment videos? Here.

            http://boingboing.net/2012/07/07/police-recruitment-videos-from.html

            When you have a PD actively seeking thrill seekers and power mad thugs, you’ll get the attitude that goes with it. If someone wants an adventure, they’ll create one.

            While your county might restrain such warrants, there are easily found instances like the car thief one or the Tea Leaf raid, where no one had any restraints.

            “I’ll certainly agree, a botched raid is an issue. But what makes a “botched” raid? That’s the issue.”
            I’ll start with the obvious of when they accidentally harm someone because they can’t or don’t understand proper weapons handling. Booger finger off the bang switch, for one.
            Toss in when they hit wrong addresses, clearly poor intel, or hit on such low information that they constantly are hitting innocent people over trivial data. When the accuracy level of the raids is in the toilet, most would wonder if maybe the bar needs to go back up.
            Part of it is the judges, who no longer honor their job of forcing the cop to justify a warrant anymore. It just isn’t worth the bother to make a cop provide real proof.
            Remember, a judge authorized an anal probe over clenched butt cheeks. Clearly that judge had more important things to do than protect the rights of a citizen.

            There is a reason SWATing people has become the rage. Those who think it is just a game know that cops will SWAT at anything. They aren’t motivated to avoid SWAT raids.

      2. Because the police crunch a door and someone who’s wanted isn’t there, doesn’t make the warrant poison.
        But it does beg another set of questions.

        1. Bellotte V Edwards

          Clear it was improper to use a tac team for that, but that was also 8 years ago.

          There will always be “dry holes” and cops hate hitting dry holes cause it makes them look bad. Most Narc teams will, even when they could get a SW, wait until either their target “reups” so he’s got product, or is just about out, and fat with money. It all depends.

          The problem is with the definition. What constitutes a SWAT raid? Is it a warrant execution or a barricaded gunman/suicidal subject? Is the all the gear and the armored truck? Or is it the patrol man, his scatter gun and the four detectives from the county drug team serving a narcotics warrant? There are several different types of warrants that are done.

          Certainly, there are dealers who have made it well known they “will not be taken alive” and are “never going to prison” and thus get the VIP treatment. For a low level grow, no, that wouldn’t score out high enough for a full callout, but you’d still get patrolmen with ballistic plates and maybe a single shotgun. For a “documents” warrant, you get a knock at the do, for a “meth door” you get a raid team wearing SCBAs, for a violent felon, flashbangs and long guns. With the high number of people, good and bad, that own rifles that can easily penetrate soft body armor, many “regular” cops leave the “doors” to those with the better protective gear. Its safer. Bad things happen sometimes but certainly it has to be placed into context. The “crib flashbang” was negligent but I doubt criminal. Departments around me use them, but only outside and only “inside” if there’s a valid hostage/officer rescue.

          1. I used My example as a metaphor, nothing more as I think it fits but the other tuff is good to have a discussion over

  4. This is great stuff, I’ve taken it a step further and let the local police know they shouldn’t respond to my address or take calls from my phone number (they seemed pretty surprised). I encourage everyone on here to do the same. I’ve also started only smoking pot/ drinking at home and following all the traffic laws. Without funding from tickets and citations and reduced calls for service, the police department will dwindle to nothing.

    Some of you trolling boot-lickers may read this and say “well, what if someone breaks into your home?” First off, I have a much greater chance of being shot by a cop then being the victim of a violent crime. I have a Master’s in psychology, if it does happen, I’m pretty sure I will be able to reason with someone will obviously be acting out of the culturally-influenced dysfunction in their life.

    I also had a cop sympathizer ask me the other day why it is acceptable to me to judge an entire group based on the well-publicized and/or misperceived misdeeds of some of its members. Wouldn’t that be a “hasty generalization” logical fallacy? she asked. She then tried to show me some contrived statistic that showed that the chance of being at the receiving end of a fatal police use-of-force was less then that of being struck by lightning. Cop loving cow and her data manipulation.

    Few of you know this, but Gary Prunty is working on a replacement for our current policing system. It involves basically firing all of the low-IQ thugs that are currently in police departments and replacing them with intellectuals that can actually reason with people and understand the law. No more police patrols,no more armed police officers and no more “self defense” (brutality) training. No more worrying about being ticketed by some tax collector with a gun when you are late for class. These new true peace officers will seek out so called “criminals” to interview them and find out what about our society is causing them to seek out a life of crime, then hand them a meal voucher. Any peace officer caught using any sort of force will be fired immediately.

    The police state nightmare is almost over america.

    1. What are they going to have to do when robot cars become the new thing? What will they do when the traffic ticket money dries up? They will have to either get real jobs or invent new victimless crimes I guess.

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